If you're interested in how urban planning, liturgy (ritual), governance, science, recursion, and open source are all related check out this episode!
A core idea: recognizing the city and the internet as organic, living, dynamic like a "cat" should cause us to approach the problem differently than seeing it as a "toaster".
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